…unless this really is about this year’s MSC?

Some advice: if you want to throw down an opponent, simply deconstruct every argument they throw at you. The best part is, you’ll come out looking smart.

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I believe you’re either underestimating the apathy of the monashians of just trying to play dumb. I know you’re smarter than that, and you know exactly what we meant. Trying to justify the hijacking of a student website so that the referendum gets the 75% it needs? tsk tsk… Most students don’t even think of the consequences of voting “YES” (as the MUSA had ‘advised’) just as long that they can get into that website. If MUSA were to start a ballot website instead that that’d be OK as long as they’re not taking advantage of the students apathy.

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20-30% turnout constitutes a majority? on what planet? So you’re into the forcing of the will of a minority on the - unfortunately - unwilling and uncaring majority? We’re not “irresponsible” voters, because there’s nothing legitimate to vote for. And you forgot to rebut the “unilateral declaration of power” over all students.

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They didn’t have a centralized gov because they needed it. Its because the Union forces wouldn’t want anymore pesky secessions, which is the right of each member states according to the Continental agreement (that is, Lincoln had illegally created a centralized state using military force). And simply declaring we’re pro-Booth is just the “hitting below the belt” attitude we mentioned about in our email reply, no were not pro-Booth. And trying to pull Gandhi into this? Check your history miss, he can’t take all the credit all for himself.

About Hillary, unfortunately considering the backward, conservative US populous’ mentality, she’s gonna have a really tough time even passing the Primaries IMHO.

2,3. Arha!you’re right! It’s majority of the students that vote! It’s a fact! So as the government elected in anywhere in the world. Students who didn’t vote normally don’t give a damn about what’s happening. Or they will be in. Being a irresponsible voter and trying to make a noise here? Don’t even get me started!

5. Apologies for the Washington’s statement. Indeed, Centralization only took place after Lincoln era, because they realized there’s a need for it! So, I assume that you are pro-John Wilkes Booth who are so against the idea of centralization that he put a bullet into Lincoln’s head! MUSA never interfere what a CnS desire to do! Insufficient as there is only one voice for CnS? There’s a team of CnS selected committee who are representing them in the division. Gandhi led India to independence with only one voice too, my friend!

Barack Obama? Good good. But I still fancy a President and First Gentlemen than a President and First Lady…
Cheers…

~Freedom~

Counter^3 Response.
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I dont think you’re getting the idea. The US citizens go to that website to vote. MyMonash is not a ballot website. To hijack such important website in order to garner votes is surely unethical.

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Majority of the students? Are you sure? Or should it be majority of those who actually went to the ballot? Which pales in comparison to those who didn’t. Remember, the highest votes turnout in Monash history is less than 30%…sure not a majority. Of budgets, surely you’re joking by trying to justify that by having C&S the “highest budget allocated”? But considering the regulatory grip their spending would that really be democratic? With only one voice (the CS rep) to represent a collective body of associations that represents majority ACTIVE memberships, please don’t kid…

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Yes, like how the 11th article of the Malaysian constitution is followed and abided (if such word exists) during the Lina Joy case? Interpretative power is just as significant as the other two. Even now there’s too much power concentrated in the MSC.

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An alternative to a centralized governing body is a DECENTRALIZED one. The Swiss had been living with a decentralized government all this time. And you’re wrong about Washington’s centralizing of the US; during the revolutionary wars the Colonies were a loose confederation. Centralization only took place after the Civil War in 1865 under Lincoln. North Korea’s on the other hand is a REALLY centralized state care to move there?
As been said, we’re not “anarchists”, we believe that the system to replace MUSA should be a decentralized body, i.e. the CnS.

p/s: Hillary? Are you kidding me? She can’t even get universal healthcare off the ground! Obama’s the choice for this side…

FREEDOM!